Modern push rods
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:02 amIn some videos about the 12th march update, appears in the engine a option called modern pushrod, but in the latest video, dissapeared.
What is this system?
What is this system?
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Modern push rods
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:02 amRe: Modern push rods
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:06 amModern pushrods are valvetrains found in for example Corvette engines, so it is advanced pushrod technology. It is not in the latest video because of the year the car is built in: Modern pushrods are not yet available in 1990.
Re: Modern push rods
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:20 amDer Bayer wrote:Modern pushrods are valvetrains found in for example Corvette engines
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- GM Gen IV V8 (LSX) - MOHV - 2005 Chevy LS7.lua
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Spec sources: http://www.chevrolet.com/performance/cr ... s/ls7.html and http://www.automobile-catalog.com/
*With the second link you're going to have to manually search the site to find the specs for the 2006 MY Chevy Corvette Z06.
Re: Modern push rods
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:29 amMay not be the best idea to call one of the most respected (for VERY good reasons) member of the community a liar in your first ever post on the forums. 
We may have gone a bit too far with their capability to rev, that's a balance issue if anything. They are supposed to be exactly what Martin says though.
We may have gone a bit too far with their capability to rev, that's a balance issue if anything. They are supposed to be exactly what Martin says though.
Re: Modern push rods
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:44 amKillrob wrote:May not be the best idea to call one of the most respected (for VERY good reasons) member of the community a liar in your first ever post on the forums.
We may have gone a bit too far with their capability to rev, that's a balance issue if anything. They are supposed to be exactly what Martin says though.
Re: Modern push rods
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:26 amYou go from +10 down to -3...... look up the price difference on those two engines.
Re: Modern push rods
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:35 amBut that's only the LS7, the most demanding LS engine on it's valves by a fair margin, if I was comparing just about any of the other LS engines the results would be flipped. The quality sliders are there for a reason and that reason is that some manufacturers have higher quality control standards and as LS7's are handmade they should have lots of extra quality.
Re: Modern push rods
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:40 amThe entire LS family is considered to have MOHC.... you are comparing apples and oranges.
Re: Modern push rods
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:46 amLook dude I'm going to be ignoring you after this post because you clearly don't know what you're talking about or what I'm saying, but as one last attempt... THE ENTIRE LS FAMILY OF ENGINES CAN BE RECREATED WITH STANDARD OHV, IS BETTER REPRESENTED BY STANDARD OHV AND MOHV IS 100% POINTLESS!!! I bit you farewell.
Re: Modern push rods
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:47 amI, for one, welcome the modern overhead valves. Makes it easier to achieve some level of simple, low-revving efficiency without DAOHC or thinking, "Well, I suppose I could spend half a century in the tycoon part pouring R&D money into OHV so that it's somewhat competitive with current real OHV engines." Quality sliders and rich fuel mixtures aren't my style, these MOHVs are.
Re: Modern push rods
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:50 amBrucemation wrote:Look dude I'm going to be ignoring you after this post because you clearly don't know what you're talking about or what I'm saying, but as one last attempt... THE ENTIRE LS FAMILY OF ENGINES CAN BE RECREATED WITH STANDARD OHV, IS BETTER REPRESENTED BY STANDARD OHV AND MOHV IS 100% POINTLESS!!! I bit you farewell.
Someone needs to switch to decaf.
Re: Modern push rods
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:04 amSee, -3 it a bit too low, but MOHV is not pointless, just kinda overpowered. LS7 does not have +10 quality, it just has a kinda decent, advanced pushrod setup.
What you need to remember is that "handmade" does not have to refer to uber-luxury car interiors level of quality. I can also refer to cheap PSP knockoff hand-made somewhere in a Chinese sweatshop. The LS engines are somewhere in-between, I guess.
What you need to remember is that "handmade" does not have to refer to uber-luxury car interiors level of quality. I can also refer to cheap PSP knockoff hand-made somewhere in a Chinese sweatshop. The LS engines are somewhere in-between, I guess.
Re: Modern push rods
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:07 amI just wanted to ask what strange things are going on with Brucemation, he seems very angry for very weird things. 
Okay I explain it nicely one more time and if you continue to be a total asswanker then you get banned, okay?
Thing is: what you show in your OP is valid criticism, it points to a bit of an imbalance with the game, namely pushrods becoming too good and MOHV being a bit too good without techpool. That needs to be addressed, maybe by stopping normal pushrod's natural development at a certain point (when MOHV come in). That would be reasonable. We'll have a look a bit further down the line to see how it works out best gameplay wise.
Cheers!
Okay I explain it nicely one more time and if you continue to be a total asswanker then you get banned, okay?
Thing is: what you show in your OP is valid criticism, it points to a bit of an imbalance with the game, namely pushrods becoming too good and MOHV being a bit too good without techpool. That needs to be addressed, maybe by stopping normal pushrod's natural development at a certain point (when MOHV come in). That would be reasonable. We'll have a look a bit further down the line to see how it works out best gameplay wise.
Cheers!
Re: Modern push rods
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:16 amMaybe stop standard OHV at 1980-85 and move to MOHV. I think that the rest of the world stopped making new engine models with OHV at that time, only 'mericans continued.
Re: Modern push rods
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:49 amThe thing is that MOHV meant for sportier and more expensive engines, as it is quite expensive due to it being made from expensive metals.
OHV was still being used in more modest engines well into the 2000's, in the form of a 2.2L in the Chevy Cavalier.
OHV was still being used in more modest engines well into the 2000's, in the form of a 2.2L in the Chevy Cavalier.