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Restrictor plates

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:22 am
by xABSOLUTIONx
And yes, we need them..

Imagine - you just designed the perfect engine to go into a road super car, but you want it to enter some form of a race and oh no, FIA restricted the power for the certain class, and now you need to cut 101hp off the road going version.

So to make it easier - eg. not to retune the whole thing, just restrict the air flow

sounds reasonable?

Re: Restrictor plates

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:33 am
by strop
I have to say, this is relevant to me and my cars :lol:

How relevant is it overall? I have no idea

Re: Restrictor plates

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:03 pm
by ktos3
xABSOLUTIONx wrote:FIA restricted the power for the certain class


I think motorsport won't be a thing in automation.At least untill some dlc's

Re: Restrictor plates

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:36 pm
by HighOctaneLove
xABSOLUTIONx wrote:FIA restricted the power for the certain class


As restrictor plates are only relevant for racing applications I'd say that Automation doesn't, in fact, need them. Sure, they'd make engine tuning easier for forum competitions but they'd bring nothing to the core Tycoon gameplay that Automation is being built for.

That being said; if the work required to implement this idea wasn't time consuming and easily doable then I'll put my hand up and say "I agree" if Killrob etc. ask for a show of hands! :lol: :P :lol:

Re: Restrictor plates

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:51 pm
by Daffyflyer
That sounds like some UI space taken up by a thing that doesn't really have a gameplay reason to exist.

Re: Restrictor plates

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:51 pm
by TrackpadUser
For now if you need to restrict your engine for a forum challenge you can simply make you exhaust pipe too small on purpose.

Re: Restrictor plates

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:26 pm
by Daffyflyer
trackpaduser wrote:For now if you need to restrict your engine for a forum challenge you can simply make you exhaust pipe too small on purpose.



Yes, but wouldn't a restrictor plate have almost the same stats effect as that anyhow, whilst taking up valuable UI space, and not being useful for anything besides forum challenges?


I don't really see the advantage?

Re: Restrictor plates

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:38 pm
by xABSOLUTIONx
an actual restrictor would be more precise e.g. you can cut off from say 668hp to 505hp without much effort

and yes, agreed on the fact that there's no UI space left, but hey, a man can dream, can't he? :D

at least I'm not asking for laser ignition :mrgreen:

Re: Restrictor plates

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:12 pm
by Killrob
How many production cars (100+ built and sold) throughout the years had restrictor plates? :P How many had laser ignition? :D

Re: Restrictor plates

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:19 pm
by 07CobaltGirl
Killrob wrote:How many production cars (100+ built and sold) throughout the years had restrictor plates? :P How many had laser ignition? :D


Define production! haha All of the cars used on the NASCAR circuit have them. There are more than 100 built for any given season. Though, I suppose, they're not "technically" available to the general public (and cost between $100k-200k each)

Re: Restrictor plates

PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:26 pm
by Weasel
I'm not sure but I think Honda had restrictor plates in the 1.5i Civic (5th Generation) engines. When you changed them you had noticeable more than your standard 90hp.

Re: Restrictor plates

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:36 am
by xABSOLUTIONx
Weasel wrote:I'm not sure but I think Honda had restrictor plates in the 1.5i Civic (5th Generation) engines. When you changed them you had noticeable more than your standard 90hp.


a gain of 10-15bhp AFAIK

and that's probably the only one i can think of that was done that way..

IDK how modeled the world will be in tycoon, but some countries have their taxes based on bhp instead of emissions or actual engine size

Honda had the right idea at the time, model with D14A3 has 75hp, D14A4 has 90hp, same engine still and different tax and insurance, done very cheaply..

Re: Restrictor plates

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 1:33 am
by maffc
In addition to restricting the exhaust size could you also restrict the rev limit to simulate this?

Re: Restrictor plates

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:10 am
by strop
Not so much without undercooking the power curve. I don't know how badly that impacts performance index, but I can see how that would make many of us twitch :P

Re: Restrictor plates

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 2:41 am
by maffc
I know the performance index takes into account power beyond the peak. before I knew better I would put the red line at peak. When the PI was introduced i amended my engines and the cars were much better around