Body Suggestions

[JeffreyCor]

please tell me you will be able to build rear-engine V8s!

OK, you can build rear engine V8s
Seriously I see no reason not as mid and rear engine talked about as planned to be in and no restriction on type/size of engine was mentioned

[Kubboz]

Because you are currently making hatchbacks, i've decided to give you some hatchback suggestions:

Alfa 147
Alfa Alfasud
Alfa Giulietta
AMC Gremlin
AMC Spirit
Audi A1 (8X)
Audi A3 (8L)
Austin A40 Farina
Austin Maestro
Austin Metro
Autobianchi A112
BMW 1 Series E81
BMW 1 Series F20
BMW 3 Series Compact E36
BMW 3 Series Compact E46
Buick Skyhawk Hatchback Coupe (1975)
Chevrolet Aveo T200
Chevrolet Cavalier Hatchback (1982)
Chevy Chevette
Chevrolet Volt
Chrysler PT Cruiser
Citroen BX
Citroen C1
Citroen C2
Citroen ZX
Citroen Visa
Dacia Sandero
Daewoo Lanos
Daihatsu Charade (all generations)
Eagle Summit
Fiat Bravo/Brava
Fiat Panda (1980)
Fiat Panda (2003)
Fiat 127
Fiat Stilo
Ford Escort Mk3/Mk4 (EU)
Ford Escort Mk5/Mk6 (EU)
Ford Fiesta Mk1
Ford Fiesta Mk2
Ford Fiesta Mk3/Mk4
Ford Fiesta Mk6
Geo Prizm hatchback Mk1
Honda City AA
Honda Civic Mk5
Honda Civic Mk8
Honda Insight ZE1
Hyundai Elantra XD
Hyundai Getz
Hyundai i20
Izusu Gemini Mk2
Kia Picanto TA
Mazda 323F (1989)
Mazda 323F (1993)
Mazda 3 (2004)
Mercury Lynx
MG ZR
Nissan Leaf
Opel Astra H
Opel Corsa B
Opel Kadett D
Opel Kadett E
Peugeot 104
Peugeot 106
Peugeot 205
Peugeot 206
Peugeot 308
Renault 16
Renault 5
Renault Megane Mk1
Renault Twingo Mk1
Scion xA
Scion xD
Seat Leon 1M
Skoda Favorit
Skoda Felicia
Subaru Impreza Mk3
Suzuki Alto Mk1
Tata Indica
Toyota Prius
VW Golf Mk5
VW New Beetle
VW Polo Mk2
VW Polo Mk5
VW Scirocco Mk1
VW Scirocco Mk3
Volvo C30

[Mil1983]

And what about "future" cars?
2012+ car bodies could be the following:
(looking for some concept car...)

Alfa Romeo 4C (http://blog.spaziogenova.it/wp-content/ ... totipo.jpg and http://media.motorbox.com/data/contenut ... 1f9a5e.jpg)

Maserati Kubang (http://exclusivehicles.com/wp-content/u ... bang_1.jpg)

Toyota FT86-II (http://www.toyota.it/Images/toyota-ft86 ... 041307.jpg)

Alfa Romeo Giulia (http://www.migliorblog.it/wp-content/up ... 2/5003.jpg)

Alfa Romeo Duetto (http://put.edidomus.it/auto/mondoauto/a ... nta_03.jpg and http://www.newemotion.it/img/prodotti/m ... 810g_1.jpg)

Lancia Thema (http://motoriblog.net/sites/default/fil ... 2012_0.jpg and http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_c6Wttyhjlyo/T ... st_big.jpg)

Mercedes F800 (http://www.sportcarwallpaper.info/2010/ ... -2011.html)

Land Rover LRX (http://www.superconceptcars.com/wp-cont ... cept-1.jpg)

Scion TC Coupe (http://www.conceptmobiles.com/wp-conten ... t-Car5.jpg)

Mercury Cougar (http://mercuryeffect.in/images/2011_Mer ... cept_1.jpg)

Honda Odissey (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_jpDnh5eoILM/T ... cept-1.jpg)

GMC Hd (http://www.gmc2012-details.info/images/ ... c-hd-1.jpg)

Nissan Qazana (http://image.internetautoguide.com/f/au ... oncept.jpg)

Fiat 500 Coupe Zagato (http://media.reportertv.info/ImageAlbum ... ----1-.jpg)

There are more, but I didn't want to post extreme concepts (cars that we may probably see after 2020).

[Killrob]

Isn't this getting a bit stupid? A bit like: "source: internet"?

If you make a list of 20 cars, you effectively split the attention to those specific cars evenly, they each get 1/20 th of your "vote" - which is so puny to say: so why care at all? If you instead would make a Top-3 list, it would be much more to the point and much more helpful than listing 100. "I want: cars" doesn't make those cars appear in the game.

Okay, what I would like to see:
Lotus Elise.


P.S. If you have more cars you want to see in the game, and more obscure ones, at least do like Mil1983 (good job!) and add proper picture/info links.

[Mil1983]

Isn't this getting a bit stupid? A bit like: "source: internet"?

If you make a list of 20 cars, you effectively split the attention to those specific cars evenly, they each get 1/20 th of your "vote" - which is so puny to say: so why care at all? If you instead would make a Top-3 list, it would be much more to the point and much more helpful than listing 100. "I want: cars" doesn't make those cars appear in the game.

Okay, what I would like to see:
Lotus Elise.

You're definitely right.
I just tried to post some different ways professional designers see in the future of automotive. Different bodies could help the devs in their job (at least I hope so).

Anyway, I'd like to see Fiat Panda and Alfa Romeo Giulietta (my old car and my current car ).

[Muhler]

Many of the designs I like have already been discussed, but I would like to add something to the narrow truck suggestions. The Chevy C series has already been mentioned however something along the lines of the S-10, the Ford Ranger line, and similar vehicles by many other companies (particularly US and Asian companies it seems) should also be included. I know trucks wont be a focus of the game but they are rather popular in some circles. Personally, Id love to see the S-10 added for personal reasons but that type in general would be good in my opinion. Possibly some of the larger designs (F-250/350 series) if you are going to add fleet type contracts. I dont know if it would be worth it for just regular sales though as I think most are purchased for work type vehicles. I could be mistaken there though.

Basically, a few full sized and light trucks with the option of heavy duty if corporate orders will be in the game.

Also, throwbacks like the already mentioned PT Cruiser would be nice but dont forget about others like the Chevy HHR.

I agree with killrob that posting a ton of different designs would not be practical to implement, but what about doing a generic version of many of the classes (like listing the S-10 and Ranger class truck as one style). It would simplify their implementation in the game and also keep the in game interface from being cluttered with huge lists of designs that will probably have to have generic names for copyright purposes. This has probably already been gone over, though.

[VicVega]

I guess it's too late now, but why do not take the same design system of Detroit?

I mean to have the possibility for each category of car to choose between several differents kinds of front, middle and rear body, and even front and rear bumber, and after to have also the possibility to set manually how large and long will be each part.

Maybe it's too complicated, too late or too long to add this feature in the game, but I think the player should feel more free to design his own car with this system, even if he's just able to choose between 5 different kind of parts for an hatchback, by example. The possibility to mix everything should give more the impression to the player to create something new (even if it's not really the case lol), more "playful" than to choose between entire bodies already designed for him...

[Daffyflyer]

I guess it's too late now, but why do not take the same design system of Detroit?

Ahh yeah, we did look at that system but we couldn't work out a good way of doing it (technically).

Also yes, considering we've put in about 6 months of work into the car design system now, its unlikely to change!

[VicVega]

I guess it's too late now, but why do not take the same design system of Detroit?

Ahh yeah, we did look at that system but we couldn't work out a good way of doing it (technically).

Also yes, considering we've put in about 6 months of work into the car design system now, its unlikely to change!

This is what I thought... Never mind, maybe for Automation 2

I guess the main difficulty was to mix different 3d parts and to get something "clean" at the end, right?

[loady740]

a few more the new Ram trucks (all models including the diesels )

1985 dodge w150 aka (power ram 150) prospector package

all the american trucks from 1940s and up (wishful thinking ?)

[Daffyflyer]

I guess the main difficulty was to mix different 3d parts and to get something "clean" at the end, right?

Exactly, its almost impossible to make a whole pile of different parts that actually line up with each other, and if you did, the fact that they had to line up would mean they could never be much different from each other.

[Daffyflyer]

And wow there are some long lists here, expect to see 1% of them in game

[Kubboz]

You're assuming that modding community will be unexistant.

[Fenris]

My #1 wish would be a late 60's pony car. Wide and sleek, pronounced coke-bottle profile, and an intimidating front end.

You're assuming that modding community will be unexistant.

Most modders usually just convert car models from an excisting game to another. With the way Automation is centered around reshaping and tweaking of the cars, most modders will shy away from it in favor of easier mods for larger mainstream games.

Besides, Daffy and Zeussy might want to release more car bodies as DLC when the main game is finished. I find it perfectly understandable if they wouldn't want direct competition from modders giving away their converted works for free, robbing them of sales that would help financing the game.

[Kubboz]

1. Daffy and Zeussy have already said, that the game will be as moddable as engine permits.
2. They've also said, that only major updates (like motorsport expansion, or hybrid/electric vehicles expansion) won't be free. The question is, are more car bodies major updates? What do you think?
3. Also, of course most modders just convert car models, but not all.