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Time for Superchargers

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:19 pm
by chevy65
I figure it's about time for an update to have superchargers and the capability to compound boost an engine. i.e supercharge with twinturbos with nitro. and also be able to get a Cubic Inch Displacement larger then 662 CI and larger turbos.

Re: Time for Superchargers

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:23 pm
by Daffyflyer
Once we get on Steam, and once we put out the first version of the Tycoon aspects of the game, we'll be going back to do more engine types.

Re: Time for Superchargers

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:42 pm
by chevy65
Awesome thanks for the info and the reply...

Re: Time for Superchargers

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:37 pm
by SamSheepDoq
Nitrous won't be in the game; it's an aftermarket upgrade.

Re: Time for Superchargers

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:42 pm
by Daffyflyer
Yeah, superchargers will be in, twincharging MIGHT be in. Nitrous and larger than 10.8L V8s won't be in, because what the hell kind of road car would ever use that? :P

Re: Time for Superchargers

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:36 pm
by nialloftara
Daffyflyer wrote:larger than 10.8L V8s won't be in, because what the hell kind of road car would ever use that? :P

Don't you squash my dreams!
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Re: Time for Superchargers

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:38 pm
by SamSheepDoq
Daffyflyer wrote:Yeah, superchargers will be in, twincharging MIGHT be in. Nitrous and larger than 10.8L V8s won't be in, because what the hell kind of road car would ever use that? :P

Twincharging is used on the Volvo XC60, so it's somewhat of a production thing.

Re: Time for Superchargers

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:42 pm
by RAHayesJ
Twincharge? Please oh lord God yes please.

Re: Time for Superchargers

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:25 am
by RobtheFiend
Also on VW 1.4l 160hp engine.

Re: Time for Superchargers

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:34 pm
by SamSheepDoq
RobtheFiend wrote:Also on VW 1.4l 160hp engine.

Did not know this. I imagine they were on low to moderate boost levels?

Re: Time for Superchargers

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:15 pm
by Daffyflyer
SamSheepDoq wrote:
RobtheFiend wrote:Also on VW 1.4l 160hp engine.

Did not know this. I imagine they were on low to moderate boost levels?



No, they were on terrifyingly huge boost levels (I think about 18PSI, note that VW quotes boost pressure in absolute, so you need to -14.5psi), but had a tendancy to blow holes in themselves.

Re: Time for Superchargers

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:47 am
by NormanVauxhall
I remember also they have used iron basement because aluminum wasn't strength enough to hold all the booooscht.

Re: Time for Superchargers

PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:36 am
by pyrlix
The 1.4TFSI CAVG is a crazy thing... despite all its flaws (like broken Turbochargers or broken chains) its a clever engine.
The cylinder block is made out of cast iron do withstand the combustion pressures - however the lamellar graphite cast iron is not as hyper as it sounds. It just the easiest and cheapest cast...
Topend is rather standard - 4V DOHC Aluminium Head with VVT. Nothing fancy or special.

The aspiration is where stuffs getting really crazy! A roots charger and a normal turbocharger booschting the engine - but not on the whole rev-range... which goes from 0 to 7000RPM. The Roots always operates... until 2400RPM, then it gets 'turned off' and can support the Turbocharger till 3500RPM if needed - you know, to dampen the turbo lag.

So whats going on in that strange thing!! On low load - there is no charging at all, the Roots is disengaged by clutch and bypassed, and the turbo is being bypassed - no booscht :(
On some proper load (like accelerating) the roots enganges till 2400RPM and is booschting with little help of Mr.Turbo to 1.5bar/21PSI - from 2400RPM till 3500RPM the supercharger is being disengaged at lower loads, and Mr.Turbo will do the job.But if you floor the pedal, the supercharger will engage again to supress any Turbo-Lag.
But at around 3500RPM the roots is being disengaged again and totally bypassed - because the turbo will always be at maximum possible boost at every situation and the turbolag wont be noticeable. However the pressure drops to max. 1bar/14PSI.

The roots blower can build up 0.75bar/11PSI and is regulated with the magnetic clutch and bypass flaps - theoretically the roots could run all the time, but thats not intended by VAG.
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Here the boost pressure preview :D

And because VAG thinks that people dont like the roots whine - they muffled it. It also could need more booscht - roots all the way would be interesting!

Re: Time for Superchargers

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:38 am
by RobtheFiend
Actually the Roots compressor (Eaton 925?) is maxed out at 3500rpm, it will overrev, (18 or 20000 rpm) because of the gearing. It even has an extra set of gears inside the front so that the pulley wont be to small.