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Post Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:32 am

The Police Cruiser Challenge!

The year is 2013, and the Big Three are once again competing for market share amongst the US's policing agencies. You are a smaller start up who wants to bring your own car to the table. This task is to design a 2013 MY cop car.

Basics: Car must have 4 doors minimum, and you cannot use the 2.05m style body, as its too small. Any 4-or-more door body is applicable., and all quality sliders should be at 0 in car designer mode. As the motor pools mechanics are lazy and the boys in blue like bumping into things, car must be based on a ladder chassis, as this allows easier replacement of side panels. Car bodies can only be painted in Black, white, beige, or dark blue. Tires used are Hard Long life road. Standard interior with no entertainment (BYOR, bring your own radio) 100 KM/h to 0 must be done within 50 meters. Single clutch, six gears.

Only limit to engine design: The motor pool mechanics are smart, and have a lot of toys, but detest twin turbos. No twin turbo designs may be submitted.

Exterior Design: Cars SHOULD be either “unique”, aggressively styled, or sleeper styled. In other words, Dodge Charger Pursuit vs Ford's CVPI vs your wild and crazy imagination. Design is, unfortunately, subjective, but not all things in life are math and measurements.

Judging:

Vehicles will be judged on a variety of features, basic ratings such as Comfort, and Safety will be measured using provided stats page.

Overall cost matrix: cars will be compared based on cost of body materials (very low-very high will receive numbered ratings) as well as engine cost to build + (manhours * 15), MTBF, and annual maintenance. The ideal cruiser will be low cost and require little, low cost maintenance. Engine must be economical as well, as MPG will also factor in.

Exterior design (as discussed above).

Speed: That test track that happens to be similar to the one in that British car show. That will be used to compare lap times in various cruisers. Also, 0-100KM/h and quarter mile times will be tested.

Out of 100 points, vehicles will be judged, break down of points:
Unless otherwise noted, points are assigned based on gradation, with lowest score and highest score being endpoints, and std. Deviation determining point value.

Costs: 40 pts
Body costs: Man hours, tooling, materials: VL L A H VH 0-4, lower numbers represent lower cost. Worth: 10 pts

Engine CTB, (costs + (manhours * 15)) Worth: 10 pts

Maintenance and MTBF Worth: 10 pts

Mileage Worth: 10 pts


Safety: 20 pts

Comfort: 10 pts

Exterior: 5 pts
Based on judges own lack of objectiveness. May incorporate other judges if tied.

Speed: 20 pts
Geared test track, worth: 10 pts

0 to 100 KM/h worth: 5 pts

¼ mile worth: 5 pts

Braking distance: 5 pts




Trials are held 4/14 – 4/28, all contractors are welcome to submit one (1) model. If you ask first, and its approved, you may submit one (1) revision to the existing model. The Winner will be announced week of 4/27. As well as the biggest loser. Accolades will be given to both, as history tends to remember the greatest and worst engineers of our times.

This is my first contest and I am sure I have made some mistakes, all the same, message me with questions and I will attempt to get back to you!



*EDIT* Fuel type should be 87 RON or 91 AKI, as officers are liable to pump whatever they feel like into the cars. Submit files in private message please! Also, if I have three or less competitors I will make a quick entry myself, but will not rate my own exterior design. Only if there are three or less entries.*/EDIT*
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Post Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:24 pm

Re: The Police Cruiser Challenge!

I believe that this should have been made in the Car Design Forum?
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Post Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:04 pm

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I think we might need a Challenges Forum...
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Post Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:13 pm

Re: The Police Cruiser Challenge!

Yeah, a challenges forum is probably not a bad idea, and I thought about the car design forum, but was not sure where exactly it should go. Technically, car design forum does make more sense. Blah, learn as I go, yah?
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Post Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:17 pm

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There is already a forum looking for scenarios that you can put this in.
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Post Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:35 am

Re: The Police Cruiser Challenge!

thats a nice challenge! :)

what fuel is it supposed to run on? i suspect something like 95?

i've created a car for this competition, what do i need to supply you with to enter?

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Post Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:59 pm

Re: The Police Cruiser Challenge!

SirStonelouse wrote:thats a nice challenge! :)

what fuel is it supposed to run on? i suspect something like 95?

i've created a car for this competition, what do i need to supply you with to enter?

cheers



Thanks! I am setting the fuel requirement at 87 RON (US) or 91 AKI (Europe). Sorry if you made an engine already, I completely forgot to specify an octane unfortunately. You can submit the files to me in a PM. I look forward to seeing your car!
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Post Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:38 am

Re: The Police Cruiser Challenge!

I kind of want to try this but... idk :/

well i built one, but how do we submit?
Personally I'd like to see manhours and MTBF return rather than production units and reliability score of 0-100.
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Post Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:37 am

Re: The Police Cruiser Challenge!

nerdsferdexplerer wrote:
SirStonelouse wrote:thats a nice challenge! :)

what fuel is it supposed to run on? i suspect something like 95?

i've created a car for this competition, what do i need to supply you with to enter?

cheers



Thanks! I am setting the fuel requirement at 87 RON (US) or 91 AKI (Europe). Sorry if you made an engine already, I completely forgot to specify an octane unfortunately. You can submit the files to me in a PM. I look forward to seeing your car!


is that not terribly low? in europe i'm sure no car that is sold new these days uses less then 95.

what files would i need to submit?
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Post Fri Apr 18, 2014 8:51 am

Re: The Police Cruiser Challenge!

nerdsferdexplerer wrote:Thanks! I am setting the fuel requirement at 87 RON (US) or 91 AKI (Europe). Sorry if you made an engine already, I completely forgot to specify an octane unfortunately. You can submit the files to me in a PM. I look forward to seeing your car!


You got the octan ratings mixed up. It's RON in Europe and AKI in US :)
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Post Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:28 am

Re: The Police Cruiser Challenge!

I built a car for this using 95RON, and can't see why you'd set it at 91... police cruisers have tuned up engines, so you'd think they'd require at least 95 RON, (or 89AKI)

Still... I'll detune the engine to use 91RON (87AKI) and submit it.

Also, what sort of mileage are you looking for? I'm near-as-makes-no-difference 30MPG (US.)
Personally I'd like to see manhours and MTBF return rather than production units and reliability score of 0-100.
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Post Mon Apr 21, 2014 4:09 am

Re: The Police Cruiser Challenge!

First, yes sorry, I did mix up the two, it should be 87 AKI, or 91 RON.

Secondly, police cruisers in america generally don't have a lot more high end tuning then the normal off the shelf, usually they DO have separate transmission coolers, or other items to increase longevity. but otherwise the engines are very near to their stock civilian counterparts. The current Ford Police Interceptor sedan has a 365HP 3.5L EcoBoost V6, this is the same engine contained within the Taurus SHO, and has pretty much the same numbers.
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Post Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:28 am

Re: The Police Cruiser Challenge!

I'm building a prototype to meet your regulations, and I come to these thoughts :
- Is there any minimum HP ?
- What kind of cruiser is it ? A regular, good-all-around or a sporty highway chaser ?
- You rate speed, but as I made a car with high downforce (as a city cruiser should be better in corners than straights, even more because of the traffic) I'm wondering if this'll be taken in count.
- Do you set any security package ?
- I rather had steel panels because of higher security and durability. But as it really weightens the car, should I ? What are the real thoughts behind the final choice ?

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