Car Design Partnership

[SamSheepDoq]

Anyone looking to start a partnership with an engine company? I'm not that into the car design aspect, so a partnership would be better than making my own. See details below:

My company builds engines for:

· Hatchbacks
· Sedans
· Sports Cars
· Track Cars
· Trucks
· SUVs
· Crossovers

Our goal for our engines:

· We avoid using turbos and superchargers, in an effort to keep our engines cheap, while still having power, quality, and reliability.
· Our average engine build time is around 103 hours, and under $1800 in costs.
· While our engines are cheap, they weren't made with any less quality, with an average MTBF of 49,000 miles.

If you have any questions or want to see an engine, just ask below.

[Drummerdude48]

Great Idea man!

Now to play along:
Foley Motor Company would like to express interest in using your comapnies engines (whats your companies name btw?) for a couple of our models. Our only concern is that your engine build time may effect our compeditiveness. However we are willing to take the risk at trialing a joint venture.

If your company and its board of directors are interested in a trial partnership:
We are currently lookin for a 1.4L NA and a 1.8L NA engine for two versions of a model to be designed in 1974. The engines will be included, respectively, in the production of a FWD 4 door model and a RWD 2 door model. (The 2 door and 4 door shells that will be used are the 2 that look like the Ford Mk2 Escort)

Both models are to launch in January 1975 with the 1.4L FWD 4 door aimed at the family sedan mark and the 1.8L RWD 2 door aimed at the sports car market. As such the engines should be designed accordingly eg. the engine for the 4 door should be cheap to maintain and efficient. The engine for the 2 door version should be of higher performance with less emphasis on economy.

Everything else for the engine design is in your hands. (just makes sure it fits in the shell)

Note to Devs: Could use some shell names in the model designer, even jsut number them to make things like this easier :p

Edit: It may be easier if I give you the platform and that way you can design the engine to fit my suspension choice? I'll upload it when i get home from work in a couple hours

[SamSheepDoq]

Great Idea man!

Now to play along:
Foley Motor Company would like to express interest in using your comapnies engines (whats your companies name btw?) for a couple of our models. Our only concern is that your engine build time may effect our compeditiveness. However we are willing to take the risk at trialing a joint venture.

If your company and its board of directors are interested in a trial partnership:
We are currently lookin for a 1.4L NA and a 1.8L NA engine for two versions of a model to be designed in 1974. The engines will be included, respectively, in the production of a FWD 4 door model and a RWD 2 door model. (The 2 door and 4 door shells that will be used are the 2 that look like the Ford Mk2 Escort)

Both models are to launch in January 1975 with the 1.4L FWD 4 door aimed at the family sedan mark and the 1.8L RWD 2 door aimed at the sports car market. As such the engines should be designed accordingly eg. the engine for the 4 door should be cheap to maintain and efficient. The engine for the 2 door version should be of higher performance with less emphasis on economy.

Everything else for the engine design is in your hands. (just makes sure it fits in the shell)

Note to Devs: Could use some shell names in the model designer, even jsut number them to make things like this easier :p

Edit: It may be easier if I give you the platform and that way you can design the engine to fit my suspension choice? I'll upload it when i get home from work in a couple hours

As far as the engines go, any specific requirements?

Example: "It shouldn't be high compression, run only up to 8000 RPM, and have at least 110 HP."

[Drummerdude48]

As far as the engines go, any specific requirements?

Example: "It shouldn't be high compression, run only up to 8000 RPM, and have at least 110 HP."

1.4L around 100hp if possible. 7000RPM limit. Standard intake to keep service cost down. 20 - 25 efficiency.


1.8L 130 - 150hp if possible. 8000RPM limit. DOHC prefered. Efficiency greater than 12% if possible.

Sorry bout the lack of detail's. Not done this before and want to give you a bit of free roam too. Also if some of my requests just are not possible with the requests ive put forward please jsut improvise haha

Edit here are the 2 bareshells:

[Killrob]

Killrob Engineering heard some birds tweet about a new deal for proper engines with the Foley Motor Company. Silently they slip an envelop with details for a deal into the the hands of the CEO, containing performance data of their latest brainchild, the "KE 1.8L 24V". The 144hp, 18% efficiency and superb responsiveness is only surpassed by its roar.

KE 1.8L 24VRev0.lua

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[RoninGT21]

Leo Motors presents its latest creation!
D183DFI is a 1.8L, 20V engine, that is pulling out 194 hp and 155 ft-lb of torque. Engine stays consistently powerful all the way until 9300 rpm. Eat that, Honda!

Note: Built under 1323 patch, so might not work for older versions.

[SamSheepDoq]

1.4L around 100hp if possible. 7000RPM limit. Standard intake to keep service cost down. 20 - 25 efficiency.


1.8L 130 - 150hp if possible. 8000RPM limit. DOHC prefered. Efficiency greater than 12% if possible.

Sorry bout the lack of detail's. Not done this before and want to give you a bit of free roam too. Also if some of my requests just are not possible with the requests ive put forward please jsut improvise haha

Edit here are the 2 bareshells:

Unaware of Killrob Engineering proposing a deal, the 110 HP, Straight-4, 1.4L powerhouse was handed over for analysis.

Once word got around that Killrob Engineering stepped in with a 1.8L, InovEngines made an effort to attack back with a 146 HP, Straight-4, 1.8L engine to sweeten the deal.

[RoninGT21]

A bit of history, before Leo Motors was created, our lead engine designer, made this engine, which ended up being similar to our current 1.8

[Drummerdude48]

Upon reviewing submissions made by Killrob Engineering and InovEngines the following feedback and decisions were make.

First off, Foley Motor Company are leaning towards accepting InvoEngines proposal for the supply of the 1.8L "I4-1847-NA" engine.

Let it be noted that although KE submitted a very competitive engine the board of directors feels that InovEngines could be the right engine supplier to partner on this particular model. The main reasons for this are a combination of a higher MTBF and the use of Unleaded Fuel (which we believe will become the norm in the future) . We feel the "I4-1847-NA" can be the engine to take our sports car to the market in as competitive condition as possible. Although manufacturing costs and man hours are higher, we expect to use the engine for some years to come with no difficulty, hence making the initial higher investment cost a long term benefit to the progression of FMC.

We would like to suggest a couple small modifications to the engine design (before finalizing the contract) that should not effect performance but should substantially reduce the man hrs for production ie 4 valve cylinders instead of 5. Also there has been some discussion regarding responsiveness and given the engine is for a sports car we are willing to sacrifice efficiency to increase engine responsiveness marginally, if it is possible to do so on InovEngines part?

In regards to the "I4-1422-NA" submitted by InovEngines for our 4 door family saloon:
We would like to accept the engine on the condition manufacturing time cost is reduced and efficiency is increased. If some power has to be sacrificed for a more efficient engine then so be it.

In relation to Leo Motors submission of the D183DFI:
Insanely high Material Costs and Cost of labour for producing a model containing your engine design would price our models out of the market.

[RoninGT21]

While we completely understand your reasoning for declining us, we have to say, that our engines are always expensive, but very reliable and powerful. Our motto is spare no expense.

[Drummerdude48]

Will keep you in mind if we do a specialist concept luxury car.

[SamSheepDoq]

Upon reviewing submissions made by Killrob Engineering and InovEngines the following feedback and decisions were make.

First off, Foley Motor Company are leaning towards accepting InvoEngines proposal for the supply of the 1.8L "I4-1847-NA" engine.

Let it be noted that although KE submitted a very competitive engine the board of directors feels that InovEngines could be the right engine supplier to partner on this particular model. The main reasons for this are a combination of a higher MTBF and the use of Unleaded Fuel (which we believe will become the norm in the future) . We feel the "I4-1847-NA" can be the engine to take our sports car to the market in as competitive condition as possible. Although manufacturing costs and man hours are higher, we expect to use the engine for some years to come with no difficulty, hence making the initial higher investment cost a long term benefit to the progression of FMC.

We would like to suggest a couple small modifications to the engine design (before finalizing the contract) that should not effect performance but should substantially reduce the man hrs for production ie 4 valve cylinders instead of 5. Also there has been some discussion regarding responsiveness and given the engine is for a sports car we are willing to sacrifice efficiency to increase engine responsiveness marginally, if it is possible to do so on InovEngines part?

In regards to the "I4-1422-NA" submitted by InovEngines for our 4 door family saloon:
We would like to accept the engine on the condition manufacturing time cost is reduced and efficiency is increased. If some power has to be sacrificed for a more efficient engine then so be it.

In relation to Leo Motors submission of the D183DFI:
Insanely high Material Costs and Cost of labour for producing a model containing your engine design would price our models out of the market.

In an effort to meet buyer's needs, we have made the required changes to our "I4-1847-NA" and here is the results.

I4-1847-NA.png (797.47 KiB) Viewed 5121 times


(Click the here to download)

We have significantly improved the efficiency of our "I4-1422-NA", while costing less than 5 HP loss. Both of our engines' build times have been reduced drastically for faster production. The result of the modifications to the design can be seen here.

I4-1422-NA.png (795.1 KiB) Viewed 5121 times


(Click here to download)

Please inform us if any further improvements and/or revisions are needed.

[Drummerdude48]

All revisions provided by InovEngines have been reviewed and approved. Design has started on the 4door model and upon completion I will forward on the final design.

I have faxed the signed contracts onto you.

We will be in touch in the coming days.

FMC

[darkjedi]

Titan Motors decided to sell some engines to other smaller companies to reduce costs of its new engine workshop.
the first units rolling off the assembly line are universal 1.8 units designed to be used for 20 years on average cost cars.

[darkjedi]

also there are some 1.4 engines built exclusively for Foley Motors.

one is designed to be cheap and economical, the other is for a fast version of the car , built for the average petrolhead