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Re: BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 6 P&Q]

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:26 pm
by strop
It seems my car is an extremely consistent qualifier, once again at P31. How does qualifying performance stack up in general? Is there much variability?

Re: BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 6 P&Q]

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:33 pm
by Absurdist
There is at least a certain amount, I've been pushing for pole some races, others, 6th. And given the gaps are bigger out of the pack, that's a fair bit. Puffster seems to be swinging around a lot I've noticed.

I think really it's more of a coincidence than anything else.

Re: BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 6 P&Q]

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:07 pm
by koolkei
and my car..... somehow the better it qualifies, the worse it races.

Re: BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 6 P&Q]

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:43 pm
by Puffster
Absurdist wrote:There is at least a certain amount, I've been pushing for pole some races, others, 6th. And given the gaps are bigger out of the pack, that's a fair bit. Puffster seems to be swinging around a lot I've noticed.

I think really it's more of a coincidence than anything else.


True, I've been from 1st to 12th position in qualifiers, swinging quite a bit, but not too much in relation to final position except for when multiple crashes happened

Re: BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 6 P&Q]

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:51 am
by 07CobaltGirl
strop wrote:It seems my car is an extremely consistent qualifier, once again at P31. How does qualifying performance stack up in general? Is there much variability?



I'm all over the place. First race I qualified 8th (I think) or 9th, or top ten anyway. Last race I think I was 25th, and I've been in the teens at least once.

Re: BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 6 P&Q]

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:14 pm
by GenJeFT
Hello.

Some more car reviews are up. One has been up for the better part of a week and the other for a day. I have been a bit to busy to post the notification here.

At 64 views most of you all have probably seen part 4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRpO3m6Vzus

FWD Special.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EME3MGlZzko

Re: BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 6 P&Q]

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:32 pm
by Absurdist
Watching it now, 2:21 for a FWD Push rod? Madness I say!

Re: BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 6 P&Q]

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:36 pm
by Packbat
Mua-ha-ha-ha-ha-HA-HA! Glad to be of service!

(Assuming Der Bayer's going with displacement-based rules for BRC 1976, it might be a bit harder to make that work in the future ... but I may give it another try anyway. :D)

Re: BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 6 P&Q]

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:17 pm
by Riso
Yeah, like I said in the other thread, OHV aren't competitive. You need big displacement to get serious power but that's all eaten up by the weight limit. They should probably get 10-20% preferred weight treatment.

Re: BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 6 P&Q]

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:05 am
by koolkei
it can be competitive here. it's using power to weight ration not displacement to weight ratio.
no matter what valve you choose, as long as it meets or below the limit, it's okay. even when the hp/liter is low

on the other one, it's all about hp/liter, which imo, that itself is already ruling out OHV

Re: BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 6 P&Q]

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:07 am
by Absurdist
Should OHV be competitive?

Re: BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 6 P&Q]

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:30 am
by koolkei
on this one? why not? it's lower efficiency may be made up with the lower cost?

Re: BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 6 P&Q]

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:36 am
by Riso
With simple power/weight rules maybe, but not the 76 ones.

Re: BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 6 P&Q]

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:33 am
by koolkei
hence why i said here i could be competitive here, but not on the 76 endurance

Re: BRC 1966 - Gentleman Brobots Club [RACE 6 P&Q]

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:34 am
by Leonardo9613
OHV is an inferior design when it comes to racing, since it has so much moving weight, thus a lot of mechanical losses and less dynamic performance.

It works fine in low rev applications and in cases where cheapness is mandatory. (Don't start with the LSx engines, americans. Looking at you, cobaltgirl and Lordred)

Why should the rules benefit an inferior design? The rules are those, and the most suitable solutions should prevail, as in most racing.