Evgenis Automobiles

[gt1cooper]

viewtopic.php?f=34&t=4762#p45589 I explained it here.

Basically, you can assume that you will accelerate faster at 80% max power in 2nd gear than at 100% max power in 3rd, so yes, what he is doing is correct, also for some other reasons explained.

[Microwave]

So basically what you mean is if the redline was the same as the max power RPM you would be wasting the engine's power because you would constantly be stuck at a lower RPM? (I'm awful at explaining things )

[gt1cooper]

Kinda sorta. Its a big factor, but you also still accelerate faster in 2nd past max power vs in 3rd at max power for a bit because of the gear ratios.

[Kubboz]

Kinda sorta. Its a big factor, but you also still accelerate faster in 2nd past max power vs in 3rd at max power for a bit because of the gear ratios.

Actually that part it not true. Due to the fact that P = v*F, when power you have now is less than power after you shift up, than you'll accelerate less than if you shifted up.
This also means that the rpm value when the current power is equal to the power you'd have if you shifted up is the optimum shift point. Obviously, if you are at peak power rpm, you'll always have more power than if you shifted up, and therefore, the optimal shift point must come after the engine peak power rpm, and that's the reason why there should be a gap between the peak power rpm and the redline.

[gt1cooper]

That formula does not apply in this conversation; it would only if we were talking about BHP.

What I said is most certainly true. Look at the chart I(daffy) provided. In terms of power applied to the wheels, not power applied to the flywheel, your gear ratios definitely have an affect on your acceleration. If you look at first gear on that chart, the acceleration is never lower than the 2nd gear's acceleration. This is in spite of the engine going well past max power rpm, and going lower than the power that it would be at in the next gear (seeing how the shift point is just about in line with the next gear's max power.)

You cannot put it that way. Think about it in terms of electric cars, where that would still apply since you are using a physics formula. Were you to have, lets say, the two speed transmission in the tesla they were planning on using, you would not shift up into the next gear at the point when the electric engine's power starts dropping off; even though the power being put out is higher at the motor, power being put at the wheels is lower, with the first gear ratio being about 9.3:1 and the second about 6:1. Since actual power has a direct, linear relationship to the gear ratios, that means that 412 HP at 6:1 gear ratio is still less power applied to the wheels than 300 HP at a 9.3:1 ratio.

What you said, however, is true if we are talking about unconverted power to the wheels . Since we were talking about this in relation to the engine's power, not BHP, it does not apply.

[Kubboz]

Please, don't confuse your terms. The chart you are providing does not depict power at the given gear in relation to rpm, it depicts the acceleration, which (assuming the constant mass, and the lack of losses such as aerodynamic drag, your chart does not provide the latter) is proportional to the torque at wheels, not the power at wheels. Torque gets converted by gearbox, power does not (it can only get lost as heat). The formula I mentioned still applies - You can see the power at wheels chart, when you go to test track screen in Automation (after loading a car), and go to the power tab. It's not perfect for demonstration, as it only shows the power in optimal gear, but it can show how the optimum shift rpm value is when the power at the current gear and the power at the next gear are the same (given constant car's speed), and how having the redline too early can change that.

[Cheeseman]

Wow, I never knew that a small little hatchback could cause such a dispute about power, acceleration and gearing ANYWAY...

Evgenis would like to present to you all a new model, the Evgenis Fos. This car is only available in one trim and with just one naturally aspirated engine. This thing has the Toyota GT86 and its sisters in sight and is going to smash them. The high-revving sporty engine combined with the lightweight, aluminium construction allows this car to seriously perform. So here it is!

EVGENIS FOS



ENGINES

"P4C-2000I(R)" - 2.0-litre 4-cylinder

- Power: 189 bhp @ 7900 rpm (141 kW)
- Torque: 140 ft-lb @ 6400 rpm (190 Nm)
- Redline: 8500 rpm

TRIMS

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In a car like this, keeping the weight down is key. The interior is lightweight however we did not want customers to be sitting in a bare and boring looking interior full of hard scratchy plastics, so we decided to use similar materials as those found in our small car, the Nero. Standard equipment is the sort of stuff that is only really considered "necessary" nowadays in order to make the car safe (multiple airbags and traction aids) and comfortable (air-conditioning, radio/CD player etc).


PRICING
We have trashed rivals in this category. With the simple stratergy we managed to keep costs down. Very down. In fact the car is only priced at £19,995 in the UK and €24,995 in Europe. Adding extras obviously ramps up the price.


SPECS

- Top Speed: 145 mph (233 kph)
- 0-62 mph (0-100 kph): 6.3 seconds
- Fuel Economy: 49.0 UK mpg (5.8 l/100 km)
- Emissions: 134 g/km

So there it is. As always, feedback is welcomed!

[jhd1124]

I really like the rear fascia on this one. This time, though, I don't think the front has the same tuned aggression as the rear. Pretty good looking all around, though.

[Cheeseman]

Evgenis would like to present to you all a new model, the Evgenis Pagos. After a lot of careful thinking and development, the team at Evgenis have managed to create an executive sedan that we can be proud of. Rivalling the likes of the BMW 5-Series, Audi A6, Jaguar XF and Mercedes-Benz E-Class, we want to take the company car market and executive car category by storm, and we believe we have. So without further ado, here it is!

EVGENIS PAGOS





ENGINES

"P6C-2700I" - 2.7-litre 6-cylinder

- Power: 214 bhp @ 6600 rpm (160 kW)
- Torque: 192 ft-lb @ 4000 rpm (260 Nm)
- Redline: 7500 rpm

"P6C-3200I" - 3.2-litre 6-cylinder

- Power: 253 bhp @ 6600 rpm (189 kW)
- Torque: 228 ft-lb @ 4000 rpm (309 Nm)
- Redline: 7500 rpm

"P6C-3600I" - 3.6-litre 6-cylinder

- Power: 288 bhp @ 6600 rpm (215 kW)
- Torque: 256 ft-lb @ 4000 rpm (347 Nm)
- Redline: 7500 rpm

"P8C-4200I" - 4.2-litre 8-cylinder

- Power: 358 bhp @ 6600 rpm (267 kW)
- Torque: 314 ft-lb @ 4000 rpm (426 Nm)
- Redline: 8000 rpm

TRIMS
This car is available in 5 trims, Business, Business+, Executive, Executive+ and SportLine

Business
We haven't skimped when it comes to standard equipment on this car. The kind of person that buys this car gets one for all the wonderful features and gadgets to play about with to show off to their "not-as-wealthy" mates most of the time. Standard equipment in the Business trim features an 8-speed automatic gearbox, leather seats, leather multifunction steering wheel, leather gear lever, 10" Full HD touch-screen display with manual control (so you don't have to touch the screen when on the move, something we consider very dangerous), climate control, cruise control, radio and CD/MP3 player, Bluetooth, satellite navigation etc. As for safety equipment, as standard it comes with 9 airbags, AEB, ABS, TCS, ESP, lane-keep assist, tiredness sensors and a number of other things in order to help prevent collisions and keep occupants safe in the event of a collision.

Business+
It comes with all the equipment from the Business trim plus some other features such as heated windscreen, Wi-Fi hotspot and an extra year added to the standard 3-year warranty.

Executive
This comes with all the features found on the Business+ model apart from the extended warranty plus electronic adjustment and heated versions of the steering wheel and seats, heads-up display, fully digital instruments cluster, a larger and higher resolution touch-screen system, four-zone climate control, adaptive cruise control and a number of other small features. Safety equipment is also upped, now featuring 12 airbags and more safety assists in order to prevent a collision and keep you safer in the event of one occuring.

Executive+
Featuring all the equipment found on the Executive trim, it also comes with front massage seats, airbag seatbelts, an extra year added to the standard warranty and 3 years free servicing as well as a number other small features.

SportLine
SportLine is based off of the Business trim and adds small sporty features such as a sporty front and rear end with a small spoiler, SportLine badges, and some other features. A SportLine+ package is available on the 3.6 and 4.2-litre versions for an additional £7,500 in the UK and €10,000 in Europw which adds carbon fibre interior trim, carbon fibre door mirrors, sports suspension, sports tyres, dual-clutch 7-speed transmission, access to all European circuits for free for a year, an extra year added to the standard warranty and 3 years free servicing as well as other small details.


PRICING

- 2.7 Business - £33,495 (€42,295)
- 2.7 Business+ - £34,995 (€44,195)
- 2.7 SportLine - £34,495 (€43,495)
- 3.2 Business - £35,495 (€44,795)
- 3.2 Business+ - £36,995 (€46,695)
- 3.2 Executive - £38,995 (€49,195)
- 3.2 SportLine - £36,495 (€45,995)
- 3.6 Business+ - £38,995 (€49,195)
- 3.6 Executive - £40,995 (€51,795)
- 3.6 Executive+ - £43,495 (€54,895)
- 3.6 SportLine - £38,495 (€48,595) or for SportLine+ - £45,995 (€58,595)
- 4.2 Executive - £45,995 (€58,095)
- 4.2 Executive+ - £48,495 (€61,195)
- 4.2 SportLine - £43,495 (€54,895) or for SportLine+ - £50,995 (€64,895)

SPECS
Evgenis Pagos 2.7

- Top Speed: 133 mph (214 kph)
- 0-62 mph (0-100 km/h): 8.1 seconds
- Fuel Economy: 41.6 mpg (6.8 l/100 km)
- Emissions: 158 g/km

Evgenis Pagos 3.2

- Top Speed: 140 mph (225 kph)
- 0-62 mph (0-100 km/h): 6.9 seconds
- Fuel Economy: 40.6 mpg (7.0 l/100 km)
- Emissions: 161 g/km

Evgenis Pagos 3.6

- Top Speed: 146 mph (235 kph)
- 0-62 mph (0-100 km/h): 6.3 seconds
- Fuel Economy: 39.7 mpg (7.1 l/100 km)
- Emissions: 165 g/km

Evgenis Nero 4.2

- Top Speed: 158 mph (254 kph) - Who really needs to limit to 155 mph (250 kph)?
- 0-62 mph (0-100 km/h): 5.6 seconds
- Fuel Economy: 39.3 mpg (7.2 l/100 km)
- Emissions: 167 g/km

So there it is. As always, feedback is welcomed!

[Cheeseman]

Hello fellow forum users

The history of Evgenis begins tomorrow! I will be posting cars from the beginning of Evgenis' 50-year history as often as I can (as I also have other things to do). Many of the cars have already been prepared.

Stay tuned to see the Mk.I 1964 Evgenis Nero!

[Cheeseman]

Welcome to 1964. The beginning of Evegnis' story.

This company was brought together just over 50 years ago by a few lads with a bit more money than sense with one passion in common. D̶r̶i̶n̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶b̶e̶e̶r̶ Cars. All of them loved buying them (obviously, they were rich), taking care of them, and driving them. There wasn't a single thing they didn't enjoy about the ownership of a car. One day down at the pub they had an epiphany. Why not try making their own cars and sell them to the public?

The name came to mind when they started to discuss their background. All of them descend from what were noble familys, so they decided to choose Evgenis as the name for the company, the Greek word for nobleman. The idea originally was to offer the most luxurious cars at the best prices, but shortly after thinking of this and well before getting anywhere near making a production car, they realised that it wouldn't work. Instead, they decided to go straight in with something that would compete directly with the best-selling cars at the time, and their first creation, completed in 1964, was the Evgenis Nero.

1964 EVGENIS NERO




The Evgenis Nero was something the creators were proud of. It looked the part, and it certainly played the part well. It was simple and it got people from A to B in relatively good comfort. It was so simple in fact, that only two engines were available and there were no trim choices. You could have either the 56 bhp 1.3-litre petrol engine, or a 69 bhp 1.6-litre petrol engine. Neither were fast, but they were quick enough in all bar the most performance demanding moments (like an uphill overtake).



The stats? Well here ya go!
1964 Evgenis Nero 1.3
Power: 56 bhp @ 5100 rpm
Torque: 69 ft-lb @ 2400 rpm
Top Speed: 89 mph (143 kph)
Acceleration (0-62 mph/0-100 kph): 16.7 seconds
Weight: 844.5 kg
Fuel Economy: 38.7 UK mpg (32.2 US mpg/7.3 l/100 km)

1964 Evgenis Nero 1.6
Power: 69 bhp @ 5100 rpm
Torque: 84 ft-lb @ 2400 rpm
Top Speed: 94 mph (151 kph)
Acceleration (0-62 mph/0-100 kph): 14.1 seconds
Weight: 877.7 kg
Fuel Economy: 37.7 UK mpg (31.4 US mpg/7.5 l/100 km)

The greatest thing about the car, and possibly the thing that made it so popular, was the price. The 1.3 was just £699, and the 1.6 was another £50 at £749, which at the time was right on par with rivals. It was, however, just as good if not better than them.

Evgenis had got off to a good start, and the profits started to come flooding in. Evgenis set to work on something smaller and even more affordable ready for 1966.

Hope you all liked

[Cheeseman]

2015 EVGENIS ANEMOS

Firstly, you can find more info on the TES version of the Anemos on AutomationHub: http://www.automationhub.net/company-ca ... rmodel/286

The new 2015 Anemos is the Evgenis rival for the BMW 3-Series, Mercedes-Benz C-Class, Audi A4 and upcoming Jaguar XE. When it comes to cars like these, pleasing company car buyers is key, and that is exactly what we aimed at.

People like these want a nice car and excellent fuel economy. We sure should please them with the updated version of our award-winning* 2.2-litre diesel engines, in all three power variants (128, 158 and 188 bhp). Not only are they smoother and better than ever, but versions promise 70+ mpg figures on the combined cycle. The new 3.0-litre V6 diesel engine should also impress with fuel economy that puts some small hatchbacks to shame.. We haven't forgotten about those who like a petrol engine either, with 1.4 and 2.0-litre 4-cylinder turbo engines and the 3.0-litre 6-cylinder turbo engine available in the TES version of the car.

1.4TE - from £22,495
Available in the SE and SE Lux trim (SE Lux costs £2k extra), the 1.4TE has the P4C-1400TE engine, a turbocharged version of the P4C-1400I engine found in smaller cars. Peak power is 127 bhp (@6500 rpm) and max torque is 134 ft-lb (@4000 rpm). This means reasonable figures for this entry-level model. 0-62 mph is covered in 10.1 seconds, and the top speed is 140 mph. Fuel economy should hopefully make diesel buyers think twice about forking out the extra for the diesel, with and impressive figure of 63.1 (UK) mpg.

2.0 TE - from £22,995
Availble in the same trims as the 1.4TE, as well as the Executive trim (an extra £5k on the SE), the 2.0TE gives an extra bit of power thanks to the P4C-2000TE. Max power is 161 bhp (@6200 rpm). Max torque is 187 ft-lb (@3300 rpm). Performance figures should please most, with the 0-62 mph sprint covered in 8.3 seconds, and the top speed is a magnificent 152 mph. Fuel economy may not be anything to make a diesel buyer think about going petrol, but at 55.7 (UK) mpg, it is more than decent.

2.0T - from £25,495
Available in SE Lux, Executive (£28,495) and Executive SE (£30,495), the 2.0T is the last of the standard versions of the Anemos. Power is more than what most people require, at 200 bhp (@6900 rpm). Torque reaches 196 ft-lb at 4500 rpm. Speed is what will attract buyers, with a top speed that even AMGs and M cars can't reach (because of limiters, but you know what I mean), a wonderful 164 mph, and 0-62 mph is 7.3 seconds.

3.0 TES - from £36,995
You can read info on AutomationHub: http://www.automationhub.net/company-ca ... rmodel/286

Have some images:

[Pleb]

Those headlights look great! And I also love the names of your cars

Any update on the Evgenis history?

[Jakgoe]

Great car, but the title has a tiny formatting error.

[Cheeseman]

Those headlights look great! And I also love the names of your cars

Any update on the Evgenis history?

Thanks! Greek just sounds nice no matter what the word, so I just settled for all of them having Greek names.

As for Evgenis' history, I have countless cars prepared, and I ought to post some more about it. Hopefully I will post some more of it over time, with the first gen Evgenis Chioni coming up next.

Great car, but the title has a tiny formatting error.

Oops. Fixed it! And thanks