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Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:45 pm**

Daffyflyer wrote:
Zatotm wrote:It just keeps getting better
Do you plan on adding values to all sliders? Noticed they are visible for Compression and Cam Profile, but not for Fuel Mixture and Ignition Timing. It sure would have been nice to have a number for reference when fine-tuning

Mmmm... good call on that one, i'll talk to Zeussy but I agree that they should have a number so you can replicate the same tune

I asked for the same thing in the car designer, especially with the tyres and rims size. I am glad this has been brought back up again.

Please try to include relevant values to as many of the sliders as you can... Not having a value really detracts from the realism you guys are trying to create.

On a brighter note the work you have been doing the past few weeks is great and giving everyone the opportunity to watch and chat to you on live stream is brilliant.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:20 pm**

Punkal wrote:I asked for the same thing in the car designer, especially with the tyres and rims size.

For the tyres and rims size, it's already implemented

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:31 pm**

I just love checking for updates on here and watching the game develop. To work full time jobs and find the time to create this game is an amazing.

I am in no real rush to play the game when i can watch its development day by day.

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:39 am**

It just keeps getting more realistic

I'm excited that we will have to deal with different fuels in different countries, as well as the historical changes like the phasing out of leaded gasoline. My Dad was a chemical engineer who formulated gasoline. I remember just how big of a deal the 1990 Clean Air Amendments where to him.

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:39 am**

Kubboz wrote:
Punkal wrote:I asked for the same thing in the car designer, especially with the tyres and rims size.

For the tyres and rims size, it's already implemented

Awesome...

Posted: **Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:20 am**

Monkey_Mitchell wrote:I'm excited that we will have to deal with different fuels in different countries, as well as the historical changes like the phasing out of leaded gasoline. My Dad was a chemical engineer who formulated gasoline. I remember just how big of a deal the 1990 Clean Air Amendments where to him.

On that subject, any idea where we might be able to find out what fuels were available where at what times in history? Current info is easy, but its really hard to work out who got Unleaded, premium unleaded etc when.

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:03 am**

Having only looked for UK based things so far I've only found this:

http://www.ukpia.com/fuel-prices-historic-data.aspx

Which includes this:

http://www.ukpia.com/files/pdf/ip-historical-series.pdf

It only covers the UK, but it does include prices as well which might be helpful.

I'll have a look for others, but I suspect I'll get bored shortly. Half an hour of concentrated effort and my mind goes...

Still, this kind of organisation should exist elsewhere and may have similarly helpful information.

Edit: It appears that other similar organisations do exist, but finding the information looks like being harder. It might be easier to contact the organisations rather than ploughing through their archives.

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:54 pm**

Very cool.

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:16 pm**

My only question about VVT is will it be tunable?

Posted: **Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:33 pm**

Nope, you can select valve timing for non VVT engines, but for VVT it automatically optimizes the timing for the best performance possible at all RPM (and gives you bonuses to emissions and economey, on the assumption that under light loads it goes to a more economical timing)

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:54 am**

Daffyflyer wrote:
Monkey_Mitchell wrote:I'm excited that we will have to deal with different fuels in different countries, as well as the historical changes like the phasing out of leaded gasoline. My Dad was a chemical engineer who formulated gasoline. I remember just how big of a deal the 1990 Clean Air Amendments where to him.

On that subject, any idea where we might be able to find out what fuels were available where at what times in history? Current info is easy, but its really hard to work out who got Unleaded, premium unleaded etc when.

Since 1975, ethanol was avaiable in Brazil. A percentage of it that can be found on regular petrol (as an antidetonant when lead was phased out) has varied over the time, from 10 to 25%. Currently, it has 20%.

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:52 pm**

Having only looked for UK based things so far I've only found this:

http://www.ukpia.com/fuel-prices-historic-data.aspx

Which includes this:

http://www.ukpia.com/files/pdf/ip-historical-series.pdf

It only covers the UK, but it does include prices as well which might be helpful.

I'll have a look for others, but I suspect I'll get bored shortly. Half an hour of concentrated effort and my mind goes...

Still, this kind of organisation should exist elsewhere and may have similarly helpful information.

Edit: It appears that other similar organisations do exist, but finding the information looks like being harder. It might be easier to contact the organisations rather than ploughing through their archives.

After WW2 the same apllies to all western Europe. I don`t know about estern Europe under USSR. Nowadays is the same in Europe including estern part of Russia.

For Brazil and more about Flexfuel and ethanol,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel

And a question: Why HP and Torque are the same using regular or premium fuel.

Regards,
Bragametro.

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:10 pm**

It doesn't make more HP or Torque, because you only make more power on premium if you run more agressive ignition timing, or up the compression ratio to take advantage of the higher octane.

Higher octane fuel doesn't have more energy in it, it just is more resistant to knock.

Posted: **Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:15 pm**

bragametro wrote:After WW2 the same apllies to all western Europe.

Not to all western Europe, Spain is diferent... I'll upload the info when I have some time.

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