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Post Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:36 pm

Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

Nope, once you are there you can't switch back, your original key will be removed in the process.
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Post Fri Mar 13, 2015 1:12 am

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Driver69 wrote:As an old school gamer and huge fan of automation, I am morally opposed to Steam, Origin, Ubiplay, etc, but I love this game although I do not care about the multiplayer part. So this decision makes me happy and I'm glad we could work out something that satisfies everyone.


May I ask, why do you hate Steam so much? It's probably one of the best things to ever happen to PC gaming.


From my point of view, it's superfluous middleware that alters my computer without asking me and forces a lot of stuff in my face that I hate (achievements, advertisements ..)
I am the one who is supposed to decide when I want to install a patch or which. It will be extremely irritating if software auto-updates without asking the user and the update breaks stuff.
And don't tell me this ain't going to happen because it does all the time. Like it was already announced that the next version of Automation will not be compatible with older engiones and cars, now what if I want at least a grace period to copy my valuable settings to paper?

P.S hope the launcher will ask before the new update so I have some days left to review data from the current version. As I said I want to copy my settings first and that would be really unprofessional. But to be sure, I'll probably pull out my ethernet cable until I am finished.
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Post Fri Mar 13, 2015 1:17 am

Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

No need to worry, for now. The launcher won't be updated right now and when it does, it will be business as usual, it will ask if you want the update. And yeah, the big updates pushed by steak will probably break stuff, but those are so rare that you'll know when they are coming.
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Post Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:16 am

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Now I am confused. I thought a big update was coming today?
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Post Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:18 am

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The Steam update is coming today, the update for the standalone launcher is coming around a week later. We would like people to migrate to the Steam version too as it is much more convenient for us to handle.
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Post Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:57 am

Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

BurningBridges, as much as I can understand your worries, I've had them too in the beginning. However, Steam really allows you to decide yourself which game updates what and when and how. Auto-Updates are merely an option, not a must. And Adveritsements I have not seen in eight years of using Steam, apart from the games, of course, but that's what Steam is for.

Of course not everything is gold and sunshine with Steam, but the issues have nothing to do with Automation.

If you want to give Steam a chance and enjoy the new Automation version with us today, I would offer you my assistance.
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Post Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:18 am

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Hat sich erledigt...hier im Persönlichen Bereich, bei Automation wird man fündig...

Has done ... here in the personal section, under "Automation" you will find it here ...
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Post Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:01 am

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Killrob wrote:The Steam update is coming today, the update for the standalone launcher is coming around a week later. We would like people to migrate to the Steam version too as it is much more convenient for us to handle.


Ok if the update comes in a week or so that's all right with me.
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Post Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:26 pm

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Vroomvroom wrote:However, Steam really allows you to decide yourself which game updates what and when and how. Auto-Updates are merely an option, not a must.


I test-installed Steam and read a bit about the topic, what you say is not true. When I go under Properties->Updates->Automatic Updates all I could do is postpone updates until I launch. Steam has deliberately removed the option and updates are mandatory. The reason? Certainly not something that Steam users need to know, for there is no explanation. There is certainly more than a pure technical reason to remove such an option.

It was for this insolence to treat users like under-age children that Steam did not go on my computer when it appeared 10 years ago, and nothing has changed.
By caving in to go with Steam you have installed a second OS that prevents you from deciding what goes on on your computer, specifically with games you are playing.
Not recommended.
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Post Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:17 am

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I 've just checked out your Steam page and iin the system requirements it's written that Automation need in Windows Vista or newer. I'm lazy as hell so I still use XP. The last standalone version runs fine on XP - has it changed or I can use the Steam version of the game?
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Post Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:41 am

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I think that's no problem. I could run Steam on XP without problems.
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Post Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:41 am

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We've had plenty of people with problems using Windows XP, so I would recommend not betting on it working on XP.
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Post Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:52 am

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Well I've already transferred my account to Steam, downloaded Automation, installed, and voilá - it doesn't work. :cry: I should have been stick to the standalone version. Anyway thanks for the answer - I'll give the game another try after a system upgrade.

(By the way it doesn't let me to install the X-frame thing. At first the game started and went well, but when I hit "Quit" it exited with an error message. Restarting the game resulted in a crash, while loading the main menu.)
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Post Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:03 am

Re: Decision on Steam & Stand-Alone Launcher

If you were able to run it fine and it shat itself on exit, it should be possible to fix it though. Can you post about the startup problem (in as much detail as available) you are getting in the support forums so that Caswal can have a look?
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Post Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:09 am

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Killrob wrote:If you were able to run it fine and it shat itself on exit, it should be possible to fix it though. Can you post about the startup problem (in as much detail as available) you are getting in the support forums so that Caswal can have a look?



Yes of course, I'll post the details for Caswal in the proper forum. Thanks for your reply!
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