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Longitudinal FWD

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:59 pm
by GrayscaleGryph
I think it could be done simply, use the same transmission as longitudinal AWD. Then use the FWD rear suspension and not run the driveshaft. It would allow longitudinal platforms to be a bit more diverse with drive-train options. Plus, how else will I make a simply awful FWD version of my Subaru clone.

Re: Longitudinal FWD

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:55 pm
by xABSOLUTIONx
VAG group uses the same setup

Audi does that forever..

Renault did in 25, no idea on other models

HAS TO BE IN THE GAME <3

Re: Longitudinal FWD

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:21 pm
by Der Bayer
This will come eventually. Not high priority though.

Re: Longitudinal FWD

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:03 am
by RobtheFiend
And you get such nice weight distribution, 65-70%+ on the front. :D :D :D (Especially when the v-10s arrive in the game. Mmmmmm front mounted Dodge truck engine.(cast iron)). ;)

Re: Longitudinal FWD

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:53 pm
by NormanVauxhall
xABSOLUTIONx wrote:VAG group uses the same setup

Audi does that forever..

Renault did in 25, no idea on other models

HAS TO BE IN THE GAME <3


NO IDEA? :lol:
The french was obsessed with longitudinal FWD ;)
Renault 4CV
Renault 4
Renault 5
Renault 6
Renault 12
Renault 15
Renault 16
Citroen 2CV
Citroen Dyane
Citroen GS
Citroen DS / ID
Citroen Traction Avant
and so on...

Re: Longitudinal FWD

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:21 am
by maffc
My first question is why would you do this?
What advantage does it give over traditional RWD/longitudinal and FWD/transverse

Re: Longitudinal FWD

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:35 am
by Dareios90
maffc wrote:My first question is why would you do this?
What advantage does it give over traditional RWD/longitudinal and FWD/transverse


The answer about the game is "Why not?" (I mean why don't the devs want to add the Longitudinal FWD if some guys demonstrated that it is more common than they imagined?)

In the "real life", by my very poor car/engine/motor knowledge, Longitudinal FWD is used because it is easier to convert it to a 4WD or viceversa with a 4WD longitudinal you can "transform" it in a FWD longitudinal, depends on the gearbox and the transmission.

Re: Longitudinal FWD

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:53 am
by Der Bayer
And you can mount bigger engines and still have FWD.

Re: Longitudinal FWD

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:11 am
by NormanVauxhall
It is also a little more expensive than the transverse FWD, technically simpler (the transverse FWD wasn't common/easy/cheap until the Dante Giacosa system mounted on the Fiat 128) and do not have the torque steering problem classical of the transverse FWD due the different length of the semi-axles.

Re: Longitudinal FWD

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:20 am
by maffc
Cheers guys, until now I always thought it was RWD/long vs FWD Trans

Re: Longitudinal FWD

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 6:30 pm
by Drake
All this posting and no Saabs??? You guys are slipping..

Saab 99 engine/drivetrains:

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The transmission housing is actually the oil pan as well.

Benefits of this design?.. Well, I imagine that you could fit larger engines as opposed to a transverse FWD. Also has the advantage of equal length drive shafts, something my modern 9-3 is sorely lacking, so it would have no problems with torque steer. I imagine there would be some slight benefits to weight distribution as well considering more of the engine will be behind the front axle, although the centre of gravity might be a bit higher with this configuration..

Longitudinal Boxer 4 is sounding like an interesting idea about now 8-)

If this were to be lmplemented in Automation it would be nice to be able to slant the inline engines as they did in the Saabs.. or perhaps slanted by default for Inline engines as the engine would likely be too high to clear the hood..

Re: Longitudinal FWD

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 6:45 pm
by Daffyflyer
Longditudinal FWD is coming. It's pretty easy because it's just the same as AWD but without the transfer case/rear diff.

Re: Longitudinal FWD

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 9:33 pm
by vmo
This setup is for equilibrate the side weights, and was used for a non-smaller gearboxes.

Re: Longitudinal FWD

PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2014 1:24 pm
by RobtheFiend
Interesting sidenotes.
The Ferrari Testarossa had a nearly identical setup as the SAAB 99/900, but with 8 more cylinders. :)

And the gearbox from some Longitudinal FWD Audi diesel is used in the Porsche Boxter/Cayman.

Re: Longitudinal FWD

PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:12 pm
by RobtheFiend
Audi has announced they are developing a 10 speed DSG longitudinal FWD gearbox. Time to add an extra gear to the list?