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Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:12 am
by Madrias
Okay, that makes sense. Not too difficult if you're aiming for things like Super, Hyper, or Luxury Superior (very few competitors compared with the others), but you're not going to stuff a tiny V12 in your city car and expect it to compete against I3's, I4's, and V6's. Fairly logical, actually.

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 11:14 am
by strop
So a quick test of a rebuild of the first car I published under my company thread, Nightfury, returns a 6:39 on Green Hell. And the V12 hasn't quite been tuned fully yet.

It seems that all is going to be well with the world once more.

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:35 pm
by chema1994
Someone needs to build a tank engine

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:31 pm
by Madrias
I've got a sellable car that'll lap Green Hell in 7:07.78, and one that's strictly race-grade that'll do it in 6:47.46, so I'm happy with the performance of naturally-aspirated V12 engines. I'm willing to acknowledge that I'm not able to beat Strop at his own game, but I'm pleased with my crazy front-engined car.

As for something I'm having fun with...

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That menacing sedan is packed with luxury goodies and a massive engine. Just something I kinda wanted to do for quite a while, to stuff a V12 into a car from the 50's and see how prestigious I could get it to be due to cylinder count and displacement. It doesn't rev really high, nor make a ton of power (6.0 compression, 0 cam profile to keep from lighting up the tires too badly), but it's a surprisingly inexpensive luxury boat.

Haven't tried refining my skill with the V12 at making large amounts of power, but I'm having fun. Can't wait until I can toss turbos at the problem, though, and see what levels of stupid I can get up to. I'm not all that great at making high-performance naturally-aspirated engines.

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:25 am
by CTJacob
For me the 1940 Lincoln-Zephyr V12 will be the first once I can get the game to function again.

4.8L V12
110hp @ 3900rpm
287nm @ 1800rpm

This is my first post here. I've been a member for almost exactly one year.

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:27 pm
by RobtheFiend
CTJacob wrote:For me the 1940 Lincoln-Zephyr V12 will be the first once I can get the game to function again.

4.8L V12
110hp @ 3900rpm
287nm @ 1800rpm

This is my first post here. I've been a member for almost exactly one year.


Too bad the Lincoln-Zephyr was a sidevalve engine. You can only mimic the numbers, not the exact engine.

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:09 pm
by CTJacob
RobtheFiend wrote:
CTJacob wrote:For me the 1940 Lincoln-Zephyr V12 will be the first once I can get the game to function again.

4.8L V12
110hp @ 3900rpm
287nm @ 1800rpm

This is my first post here. I've been a member for almost exactly one year.


Too bad the Lincoln-Zephyr was a sidevalve engine. You can only mimic the numbers, not the exact engine.


Yeah. Same with the Ford Flathead V8. They still come within about 5hp of the OHV engines.

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:04 pm
by koolkei
so far.... who had built the most efficient V12?

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:54 pm
by Madrias
Might have a runner-up for efficient V12. The transmission, undoubtedly, will be holding it back. That being said, I couldn't help but be the first person to commit an automotive crime by coupling a V12 to a nine-speed slushbox.

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24.5 US MPG, in a car that is designed to be comfortable, easy to drive, but still kinda fun if you want to let it unwind a little.

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And yep, that's a 9-speed slush-o-matic hooked to a nice 6 liter V12. Shame we don't have CVT's yet, or I'd have used one of those instead. Maybe some other time.

Oh, and that's using my typical "Regular Unleaded Only" build. And VVL, which I rarely ever use, because two cam profiles becomes a pain sometimes. With an Eco tune (15:1 air:fuel ratio, low cam profile, highest compression possible with such low fuel mix and cam) just to try to make it a little less thirsty.

Used Partario's new executive car body, but built in 2015 because I felt that was a good starting platform for a test of both the new body and of course, the never-before-used 9 speed automatic. (at least, I've never typically used such crazy automatic gearboxes. Typically, the most I use them for is up to about 4 or 5 speeds, and only in cheap, tiny cars that need lots of drivability.)

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:23 pm
by vmo
The biggest v12 as possible and powerful, f1 90s engine (600hp for a 3.5l engine, not bad and so close to the real f1 power), 8.0l v12 for the Excelsior, attempting to put a >5l v12 in a '00 large supercar (I can't fit large engine in the mid-engined bodies).

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 3:54 am
by koolkei
sooooo
1. i haven't played the open beta up until now
(also still split on the new track calculation. while the calculation is really good, my computer is just shit at computing it. green hell? 2 minute calculation time, how the hell am i supposed to tune anything at green hell?)

2. i said earlier my first v12 would be small and nuts. i lied. i finally made a 6.5l v12 in 1971

3. you guys said it's OP...... i never figured how ridicolously and stupidly OP it is....... and i exploited it ASAP

i made the most mundane hyper car ever

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soooo what's op about this car you say?
THIS
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rarely i amaze myself

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:56 am
by EnryGT5
I passed the Brick Restoration scenario with a 5 liter V12. That's insane.


Also.... i tried to break the 2000hp N/A barrier with a V12. Success. 16.something liters, 2349 Horsepower!

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:46 pm
by NickPalaroan
ArnRno wrote:The V12 is probably the motor that interests me the least - I'm much more looking forward to the straight-3 we'll get next (I think), and I'm hoping reeaally hard for straight-twins and the V4.

That said, I'm going to try to make one of these...
http://jalopnik.com/315982/ass-kickin-engine-of-the-day-gmc-twin-six-v12?sidebar_promotions_icons=testingon&utm_expid=66866090-67.e9PWeE2DSnKObFD7vNEoqg.2&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

4.560 x 3.580 bore and stroke, 702 CID, ~1500 lbs, and over 200 horsepower.

I used to have the 351 inch V6 in a school bus I had years ago, the 702 is literally two of them.


Why would you not be interested in V12s? Probably the best possible layout for an engine if you ask me.... I owned a V12 not long ago, and while being very expensive to maintain (and fuel) compared to normal city cars, it was a dream to drive. 400hp and whisper quiet at idle, couldnt even tell if it was running it was so smooth.

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:04 pm
by UMGaming
EnryGT5 wrote:I passed the Brick Restoration scenario with a 5 liter V12. That's insane.


Also.... i tried to break the 2000hp N/A barrier with a V12. Success. 16.something liters, 2349 Horsepower!

I got 2359hp :D

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 4:15 am
by ArnRno
@NickPalaroan - V12s are an engine I've never encounter in real life, and I don't really plan to. I've had.... I don't know, twenty or thirty cars by now, but no V12. Horsepower scares the hell out of me in the real world, and in the game it just makes a ton of noise and wheelspin (okay, basically the same as the real world, too). Honestly, I would rather get to make an I3 or a V4 in the game, more useful, and I'd rather own the same in the real world over a V12, just my preference. Zondas, and the like, aren't something you could pay me to drive in the real world, I do not have the nerve. No offense, but your V12 Merc doesn't interest me, my favorite Mercedes have half as many cylinders, and six is plenty.

I will say I did have a lot of fun with the V12 in the GT challenge, but I just don't see myself using the motor much elsewhere.