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Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:55 am
by Packbat
@Lordred: Ooh, I like that idea! I'll probably go for 3L rather than 1.5L, but yeah - that's a cool way of comparing advantages and disadvantages.

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:30 am
by Lordred
Ya, I plan to build combos of each size

~10% Undersquare
Square
~10% Oversquare

Example
75.4mm x 84.0mm I4
78.2mm x 78.1mm I4
81.1mm x 72.6mm I4

That kinda stuff....

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:54 am
by 07CobaltGirl
What I built today.......

V12 FTW

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Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:39 am
by Packbat
V12s really are game-changers - they have ludicrous amounts of smoothness for displacement. It's awesome.

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:45 am
by Madrias
Not to mention, a large displacement V12 is rather prestigious. Luxury cars love V12's.

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:21 am
by TrackpadUser
Yeah, I think they might be a tad too OP.

These two cars are meant for the City Premium demographic. First one has a 2L V12, second one has a high-tech 1.3L I4.

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The stats aren't massively different, except for prestige and production units. The end result is that both cars have around 104 competitiveness in the city premium demographic.

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:28 am
by Madrias
Regarding the prestige between the V12 and the I4, I think it's fairly appropriate. You've got a higher displacement, and I4's have the lowest prestige value of all the engines. V12's also have the disadvantage of being the most mechanically complex engine we currently have.

I'm not saying it's perfectly balanced, but those are the two extremes we have.

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:03 pm
by Packbat
...I just got 318.8 Desirability on Premium Budget in 1955. V12s are bonkers good.

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:46 pm
by Daffyflyer
Seems like maybe they're too cheap to make.

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:47 pm
by cpufreak101
Packbat wrote:...I just got 318.8 Desirability on Premium Budget in 1955. V12s are bonkers good.

yeah, they're feeling a little OP to me, because i managed to get one that made a family sedan into a sports car with not too much of a hit to fuel efficiency

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:06 pm
by Madrias
Yeah, I gave some V12's a shakedown in a few cars and... yeah, they're way more powerful than I expected.

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:20 am
by ArnRno
TrackpadUser wrote:Yeah, I think they might be a tad too OP.

These two cars are meant for the City Premium demographic. First one has a 2L V12, second one has a high-tech 1.3L I4.


The stats aren't massively different, except for prestige and production units. The end result is that both cars have around 104 competitiveness in the city premium demographic.


I didn't quote the image just to keep things tidy,
but single digit mileage in a city car? I can't believe the competitiveness is so high...

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:01 am
by TrackpadUser
In L/100km

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:48 am
by ArnRno
TrackpadUser wrote:In L/100km


I am an idiot American, my apologies. :lol:

Re: What will your first V12 creations be?

PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:12 am
by Killrob
I don't expect them to be overpowered: yes, they give you more prestige, but development time will be about twice as long compared to reasonable I4s. That means they will be difficult to make viable in categories that have a lot of competition going on, like the city segments.