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I think there's something wrong with my Total Cost

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 7:57 am
by andodide
So I was there, play Automation and trying to make some kind of my own version of the Ford Focus (at least the engine is based on it).
The peoblem is that I'm try to make it the lowest price possible, and then, I see this:

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Is that really $114.368,66? Becouse I want something around $12.000~$25.000
Is this a bug or is just me being dumb?

Re: I think there's something wrong with my Total Cost

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:00 am
by nialloftara
Looks like you used a lot of quality sliders somewhere

Re: I think there's something wrong with my Total Cost

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:02 am
by Pleb
Well, your 5 main stats are quite good, but Production Units are very high, leading me to believe you may have extensively used quality sliders. The quality sliders greatly affect cost and man hours. :)

Re: I think there's something wrong with my Total Cost

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:19 am
by Packbat
I think production units work out to about $30-35 per - there are a lot of places where material cost goes down with quality but production units go up, and usually that means net cost is going up.

Re: I think there's something wrong with my Total Cost

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 12:15 pm
by andodide
nialloftara wrote:Looks like you used a lot of quality sliders somewhere


Pleb wrote:Well, your 5 main stats are quite good, but Production Units are very high, leading me to believe you may have extensively used quality sliders. The quality sliders greatly affect cost and man hours. :)



Actually, yes. I didn't know it affected the price and production units. Thanks for helping! :D

Re: I think there's something wrong with my Total Cost

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:18 pm
by andodide
Problem solved! now it only costs $18.790!

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Re: I think there's something wrong with my Total Cost

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:51 pm
by Leonardo9613
Don't forget that this is the building cost of the car, the selling value is often 2-3 times higher, so you might want to kill some sliders. I also noticed that your fuel economy is very poor and the drivability is quite low for this sort of car.

Re: I think there's something wrong with my Total Cost

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:56 pm
by Killrob
A 2015 car in that segment should have over 50 drivability, cost between 6k and 9k total and have around 120 production units :) more work to be done!

Re: I think there's something wrong with my Total Cost

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:05 pm
by TrackpadUser
Also, I don't know how large your engine is, but even with those sort of power figures, ~7l/100km should be doable.

Re: I think there's something wrong with my Total Cost

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:40 pm
by Leonardo9613
Killrob wrote:A 2015 car in that segment should have over 50 drivability, cost between 6k and 9k total and have around 120 production units :) more work to be done!


Costs between 6 to 9k for a Focus rival? I'm afraid not, Robert. Those would cost around 9k to 11k, since they have AHS chassis and expensive rear suspension.

Re: I think there's something wrong with my Total Cost

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:30 pm
by Killrob
Depends on what you are aiming for, I quickly built one that matches what I thought would be possible on a budget:
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Re: I think there's something wrong with my Total Cost

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:53 pm
by TrackpadUser
Yup, it is definitively possible to make something decent with 8500~9000 as long as you stay decently small.

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That thing has AHS steel chassis, Aluminium panels, double wishbone rear suspension and a turbocharged 1L engine with VVT, DOHC 4V and DFI.

Re: I think there's something wrong with my Total Cost

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 6:27 pm
by andodide
TrackpadUser wrote:Yup, it is definitively possible to make something decent with 8500~9000 as long as you stay decently small.

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That thing has AHS steel chassis, Aluminium panels, double wishbone rear suspension and a turbocharged 1L engine with VVT, DOHC 4V and DFI.


I'm trying to improve my car, based on what im seeing on you guys posts. Can you please tell me more about that little car?

BTW, I 'm very bad at this game

Re: I think there's something wrong with my Total Cost

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:35 am
by Leonardo9613
The point, Killrob, isn't to make a cheap car, it's to make something comparable to real life, that car you made, for example, has a comfort rating below the cars from my 1993 challenge. I made a Focus/Golf mash-up replica, using an engine based on the 2.0 Duratec, and considering how upmarket those cars now are inside, premium interior, with standard entertainment. It isn't optimised, but there you have the results. Also, trackpaduser, you made your car in 2005. And you both used bodies from a class below.

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Re: I think there's something wrong with my Total Cost

PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:11 am
by andodide
Leonardo9613 wrote:The point, Killrob, isn't to make a cheap car, it's to make something comparable to real life, that car you made, for example, has a comfort rating below the cars from my 1993 challenge. I made a Focus/Golf mash-up replica, using an engine based on the 2.0 Duratec, and considering how upmarket those cars now are inside, premium interior, with standard entertainment. It isn't optimised, but there you have the results. Also, trackpaduser, you made your car in 2005. And you both used bodies from a class below.

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Can you give us a screenshot of all the tabs?